Friday, September 14, 2007

Lyle Macwilliam's secret

Something Private Aye found on the internet...

http://mlmresourcesmalaysia.wordpress.com/2007/04/25/read-the-report-on-usana/

Askyou Says: April 26th, 2007 at 9:06 am

Usana is a small company but talk big. They fall under small business catgeory for the Forbes and Businessweek rankings that they frequently quote. The difference between Usana and Amway is like Luton Town FC and AC Milan!

Usana’s 2 main argument is that 1. They have GMP manufacturing 2. Lyle Macwilliam report on nutrition ranks them no. 1
Lets see:

1. Nutrilite, Amway manufacturing facility is beyond GMP. We also have GAP (good agricultural practice), our nutrilite manufacturing plant is 500,000 sq ft vs Usana’s plant is only 180,000 sq ft. Amway;s main manufacturing area covers 1.6 km stretch in Ada, michigan … talk about HUGE. How about Nutrilite’s 7,000 acres of certified organic farms in 4 different locations in US, Mexico and Brazil? We have Scientific Advisory Board members from the world’s foremost researchers, scientists, in nutrition, genetics etc. Usana’s board consists of GENERAL PRACTITIONERS & PEDIATRICIANS who are Usana’s distributors with financial interests in promoting Usana !!

2. If we can proof the Macwilliam report to be flawed, and biases study, then 95% of damage is done on Usana’s credibility. That’s exactly what is is … a Usana sales/marketing tool to assist dumbos to sell their products without much thinking .. just show and tell. Nutrilite is the leader in food supplement sales worldwide … last year USD 2.9 billion (Amway total USD 6.4 b) , source: Euromonitor International and Nutrition Business Journal. We’ve been around for 71 years, the only one to grow, harvest, process on our own certified organic farms. Usana doesn;t have much to show… so have to CREATE a 3rd party publication to endorse their products. Anyone with BRAINS can see that after reading the Report.

The price of Usana’s stuff is x2 more expensive than Nutrilite. Where is the logic?


A flawed and "unscientific" report Says: April 30th, 2007 at 12:45 pm

Spot on! Anyone with common sense can see that the report has only 1 fuction:
Act as a sales gimmick for Usana distributors to use as a “credible third-party” resource.
I’m a scientist by profession, and the comparisons done are definitely not scientific in nature. It is a flawed study with many mistakes and errors. Reading Macwilliam’s background, I have no doubt that he is not qualified to be speaking in such detail on nutritional science. The charts and graphs may look fancy, but means nothing when you consider the basis of the study is flawed, and the application is inconsistent. No where is this study do you find any references to clinical research. A comparative study based on opinions and averaging them out is not scientific.

Tim Junk Says: July 23rd, 2007 at 4:57 pm

Flawed? Read the basis for the study … ask any credible scientist - method is at best, careless. At worst - fraudently misleading. Average of opinions of health writers - is not scientific! Ray Strand one of the “independent” authors who gave opinion - his wife is a high-ranking Usana distributor! her picture came out in front cover of a Usana magazine (inside we can see Ray next to her). Listing tiny amounts of expensive ingredients also do not make Usana vitamins better!
Biased? Macwilliam clearly has something to gain financially from promoting Usana. He is currently going on tour - promoting his book at Usana functions. If he is aware people are questioning his integrity, he should try and limit his exposure at Usana functions. Last i counted he spoke at 25 big Usana celebrations & gatherings in a 3 month period! He was also a usana board director until 2003 - when he resigned. Covering his tracks i believe. His book is being sold at bulk discount - cheaper if you buy 500 copies or more. Who would buy such a volume - unless you design it to be a sales tool for a network marketing company. The report is published in the languages for the countries Usana operate in - for example which scientist will produce a specific report for New Zealand/Australia, Mexican (in Spanish) - comparing products in NZ/Aust and Mexico to Usana? The back of the 3rd edition, had testimonials/comments by readers - who ALL happen to be high-ranking Usana distributors!! is it a coincidence .. or by design? Not 1 or 2 … 6 comments from 6 high ranking distributors!! Check frauddiscovery.net. They even list these medical doctor’s DISTRIBUTOR NUMBER, Usana rank & income! not independent medical doctors … but people with financial incentive to promote Usana! Ladd Mcnamara - advisor to usana - does NOT have a licence to practice medicine, and recently quit the board due to bad press. VP of research Tim Woods - does NOT have a PHD in biology as stated in Usana official bio - but FORESTRY!, Dennis Waitley - usana board member, does NOT have master degree or PHd from universities he quoted. Too many loose ends, too many red flags - Usana is a scam.

Overpriced products + dubious endorsements + lying leaders = Crumbling empire.

20 comments:

Business Developer said...

USANA has over 20 Ph.D scientists ON-STAFF. They also have a medical advisory board, unpaid except many are USANA Distributors. Their role is to advise USANA about products and product contents. USANA's products have an NSF rating. They are in the Physicians Desk Reference for PHARMACEUTICALS. Lyle MacWilliam's study also included independent lab verification giving USANA the number one rating out of 1600 products evaluated. see more at bevjambois.usana.com

Business Developer said...

USANA's products are reasonably priced. For a price comparison of several of our products with other products on the market, email highestpayout@gmail.com

We're proud of all the awards USANA has received and of the many Olympic and pro-athletes who use our products.

USANA has given me freedom - that is, residual income so that I have time to spend with my family and do the things I want to do. The person that wrote this blog is not happy to be associated with a company that isn't rated very highly in Lyle Macwilliams guide which ranked over 1600 products. Consider the source of their anger and why they would make false allegations about USANA.

Unknown said...

I am doing a research paper about nutritional supplements and their role in healthcare, USANA is one of the companies I am looking at. I am also looking at Mannatech who rank far below usana in the Comparative guide. If you have any scholarly references or comments I would appreciate them.

United against said...

I have not used Usana but like the fact that they do not use Magnesium Stearate or at least do not list they use it. I see that Amway does which is a shame. In some people including me it acts as a laxative and since I already have problems with my stomach I can not take things that have this in them. It also coats items and makes it more difficult to be absorbed.

Lucia Craciun said...

well - too much for objective analyze, right? Amway has more sq ft of land and sells more - so what is that have to do with the quality of the product?
Hyunday sells more cars than Mercedes - so what? Does that prove Hyunday better than Mercedes?

Nutrilite is sold more simply because Amway it is a bigger and older network store - selling toilet papers, shampoo, carpet cleaners and other stuff - and they have their brain washed followers to think that THEIR stuff is the best - no matter what. Arguments like this would make MacDonalds the BEST food in the world - just because their are BIGGER....

About Lyle and third party endorsement - they are a lot of independent reviews and while everyone say Nutrilite is OK....Usana is much higher ranked. Because in case of heath, I dont care about who is number one in SALES but in Quality

R Prasad Nair said...

Simple logic........if anyone downgrade me or talk lowly about me and they dare enough to put it on paper, I will sue them in court! Amway is such a huge organization and Lyle MacWilliam has put them so low in standards in his comparative guide which is in blak and white. If it is untrue and biased, why Amway, Herbalife, Monavie and ect havent sue him or usana for creating false or fake report? It is definitely damaging your businesses! Anyone care to answer?

Christine Patrick said...

FYI: Saying the USANA products are listed in the Physicians Desk Reference for PHARMACEUTICALS means absolutely nothing....that is paid advertising space that drug company buy. I know because I worked for the PDR. Most of the time you get the same info listed on the package insert of a drug.

Unknown said...

WOW... Great!! USANA IS FAKE. Now I notice!! what Is GAP?? T-shirt ah?? GMP got 2 category. 1 is food category! If AMWAY doesn't got GMP tht mean your nutrilite can not eat idoit! 2 is pharmaceutical category. idoit. if you dont satisfied with the result. Why not you sue him. unfortunately, the 5 edition is out! USANA STIL TOP!! where is nutrilite??? Can't see in top also.! how sad! Y lyle macwilliam got an account in USANA. Good question! If you know USANA in the best product will you choose the low rank product? no right? idoit!

Jennifer said...

well I have tried nutrilite daily before but when i was introduce to Solgar brand I shift to it at I can see big difference on potency. Does this mean solgar is even better than USANA?

Boey Low said...

Sue as much as u can but consumer has right to choose the highest quality health supplements

John Soriano, MS said...

Cant believe you wasted time writing this. So how's SCAMWAY going for you?

Unknown said...

Do you understand what am i saying? If AMWAY'S NUTRILITE DAILY and DOUBLE X are classified as 1 star or 2 stars products and if it is not true then why not AMWAY CORP being such a huge organization handle this matter legally? My conclusion is it is true that USANA products are way better than AMWAY.

Unknown said...

Then why Amway products are not listed in PDR. is it because they are not bothered to be listed in PDR or they dont qualify?

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Unknown said...

it is all logic. If you have been attacked personally and spread such "gossip" that will have a big impact in your life, you will not just watch them do that. Of course, you will sue them and prove that all of their info about you is wrong.
SO WHY THOSE BIG COMPANIES DON'T TAKE ACTIONS TO REBATTLE LYLE MCWILLIAM IN COURT TO JUSTIFY THAT HE IS FABRICATING THINGS..

JCVR said...

4Life transfer Factor is no. 1 now.

Small Priest said...

Yeah get roasted

smarty pants said...

usana book is definitely a scam biased book written to sell usana. author is not even a doctor. and yes was on their payroll whos wife is a usana sales leader

smarty pants said...

because its his OPINION and people are entitled to their opinion even when its WRONG opinion. there is a great difference between scienctific proof and opinion

smarty pants said...

both amway and nutrilite really do not have much 3rd party clinical basis for their products and are probably same quality. good but not that good